Posted on: December 28, 2008 10:55 am
Edited on: December 28, 2008 10:57 am

NFL: 0-16 -- what would it mean?

I sympathize with fans of the Detroit Lions. Being one who follows the ups (few and far between) and downs (mostly) of the Cincinnati Bengals, I know what it means to see 2-14, 3-13,  4-12, and 7-9 more times than you thought you would ever care to.

What I have found baffling about the Lions this year is the number of games that the team has actually been in early, being up as many as three scores in at least one instance, before finding a way to lose the game in the second half. It's difficult to pinpoint where the problems are when such things happen.

The Lions are in a similar situation to the Bengals from an ownership standpoint. Mr. Brown, despite all indications to the contrary, appears to believe he is enough of a "football guy" to get the Bengals where they need to be. I have been convinced for a while that Mr. Brown runs the Bengals like a business, to make money, rather than like a football team, to win games. William Clay Ford, Sr., appears to be just as out of touch with reality on a day-to-day basis. I'm not sure if it is for the same reasons, but the results are the same.

To see a team go 0-16 is tough to contemplate, no matter what team it is. I started a poll earlier this season on the Bengals board asking who would be the first team to win a game, the Lions or the Bengals, because, at that point, I thought there was a downhill struggle going on with both teams. The point is moot now, as the Bengals got their first win at the beginning of November over the Jaguars, then tied the Eagles two weeks later at home. The Bengals have won their last two and are field-goal favorites against the Chiefs today.

The Lions play the Packers at Lambeau Field today. The line quoted in the CBS preview of this game has the Packers as 10 1/2-point favorites. It's hard for me to believe the Lions can win this game, so 0-16 may become a harsh reality, not something a team wants to be remembered for.

Posted on: October 16, 2008 12:52 pm
Edited on: October 16, 2008 12:55 pm

First in Line 2009 - Countdown to 0-16!

This should be the slogan for the Bengals starting this weekend if they can't pull out a win against the Steelers this Sunday. Vegas has Pittsburgh by 9 1/2 over Cincinnati playing at home. Ouch! As dinged up as the Steelers are, the Bengals are more discombobulated at the moment, and the line reflects what I think is the general thinking out there. The Bengals are a lost ball in the high weeds.

It may be safe to start the Countdown to 0-16 after Sunday's game. With a loss, the Bengals would be 0-7, almost halfway to that magical number. But, even the record, the key to the first pick in next year's draft, might not be the solution for Bengals fans. As I just noted on a thread I started after last week's loss to the Jets:

Even if we start the countdown to 0-16, and the Bengals are first in line for the draft in 2009, they could pick the best player, or the one player who best fits their needs when the time comes, and still lose out because they can't sign that player or because the player doesn't want to come to Cincinnati.

Now there are NO good outs to this situation. My kingdom for a general manager, a player/personnel coordinator, a FOOTBALL GUY!!!!

Check out the thread and cast your vote for who will win a game first, the Bengals or the Lions.


I'll be watching the game on Sunday and rooting for the Bengals (though to win or lose, I'm not sure -- ??). But, in the back of my head, those words will be floating around:



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